tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617609977568366999.post2997999319276402529..comments2023-05-17T01:14:59.476-07:00Comments on Elflandia: Stalin vs. Marie AntoinetteScheherazadehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16870122679819917572noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617609977568366999.post-1507735328485027072013-12-15T13:25:02.340-08:002013-12-15T13:25:02.340-08:00From what I've read, Louis was actively conspi...From what I've read, Louis was actively conspiring with his wife's relatives in Austria to get them to invade and put him back on the throne. And ultimately, after Napoleon was kicked out, they did put one of his relatives back on the throne.<br /><br />Poor Marie, though, I doubt was very much a threat, though I haven't read much about her execution. She probably had very little capacity to do much of anything against the revolution, given the social norms of the day. She was probably more a victim of class-hatred and bigotry against Austrians.<br /><br />The Romanovs are in the same position as the Bourbons--probably nice enough folks, but had to be killed to ensure they didn't come back to power. The RR, though, had already gone much further down the road to justifying murder on the grounds that people who were part of the upper classes were bad people simply by virtue of social class.<br /><br />I think the French Revolution basically would have happened anyway, because I think the real cause was mass starvation due to a particularly low dip in the Mini Ice Age. The business about having a constitution and the rights of man and so on is just the particular culturally-mediated form thinking folks imposed upon their rebellion. The common folks didn't care about that; they just wanted bread.<br /><br />I could be wrong, of course. :)Scheherazadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870122679819917572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617609977568366999.post-19482815065191723112013-12-15T13:24:39.013-08:002013-12-15T13:24:39.013-08:00Incidentally, the French wrote their constitution ...Incidentally, the French wrote their constitution before the Americans wrote theirs. Scheherazadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870122679819917572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617609977568366999.post-65879942433133402122013-12-15T12:38:48.952-08:002013-12-15T12:38:48.952-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scheherazadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16870122679819917572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-617609977568366999.post-27513453187229261262013-12-15T11:23:32.621-08:002013-12-15T11:23:32.621-08:00I think Marie Antoinette and Louie XVI's execu...I think Marie Antoinette and Louie XVI's executions were more symbolic to the French Revolution than anything else. I haven't read much into detail about Nicholas II, but was he in a similar position in regards to the Russian Revolution which disposed him?<br /><br />I guess a larger question would be whether the French Revolution would've occurred when it did if not for the American Revolution.<br /><br />And yeah, Russian history, both pre-1917 and then throughout Soviet rule, is pretty damn bleak. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com